Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Towards a 'more inclusive' Ontario

McGuinty wants to drop the Lord's Prayer at Queen's Park, or else have rotating prayers from different faiths.

Do atheists have their own prayer? And what about the environmentalists?

17 comments:

Nicol DuMoulin said...

I don't think atheists have their own prayer. They would just want to do exactly like McGuinty desires.

Oh.

Thanks for the post.

Nicol DuMoulin said...

Also,

This will be his first step towards eliminating the Catholic school system.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

This will be his first step towards eliminating the Catholic school system.

There's an interesting wrinkle...

Peter said...

can you say "Ontario now a pagan province"

SHAME SHAME on the liberals

dmorris said...

Yes, we atheists DO have a prayer, offered just in case we're wrong about the whole thing.

"Oh Lord, deliver us from twits like Dalton McGuinty, who has never learned that if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

I don't know about McGuinty's religious beliefs, but he sure worships at the shrine of Political Correctness.

The Devil take his soul!

Raphael Alexander said...

I don't have strong feelings on this, but I think that tradition should supersede secularism here.

Brian said...

If the Lord's prayer is removed that is one thing , but bowing to the multicultural dogma of allowing rotating prayers of different faiths is an insult to the secular democracy called Canada.

What next , Muslim call to prayers 5 times a day ?

Joanne (True Blue) said...

What next , Muslim call to prayers 5 times a day ?

I just read something about that yesterday! It may have been in Britain. If I find it again, I'll post it.

Raphael Alexander said...

I guarantee the muezzin call to prayer will come to Ontario.

Anonymous said...

let's get this straight.

The Catholic Premier who fancies Catholic schools wants to remove the Lord's Prayer from the leg.?

This Premier has too much time on his hands, man.

Greg said...

Evironmentalists Prayer:
Please die everyone, because humans pollute the earth. Except us environmentalists, who must remain behind to exterminate any vermin who escape.
Amen

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Well done, Greg. Prayer to be said in front of a statue of David Suzuki.

Joe said...

Well Christian people of Ontario are fighting a rear guard battle. Reciting the Lord's Prayer means nothing by itself. Without the belief system behind the prayer you might as well be whistling Dixie.

For the better part of its history the Church has been an agent of Ontario elites and state, not an agent of the people.

Unless the Church is an agent of the people it loses its influence in the society. Should the church regain its influence amongst the people the matter of reciting the Lord's Prayer would be unimportant only because everyone would want to recite it.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Reciting the Lord's Prayer means nothing by itself. Without the belief system behind the prayer you might as well be whistling Dixie.

Good point.

Steph said...

When I heard this on the radio this morning, my first thought was "There is a place in Ontario, outside of a church, where the Lord's Prayer is still recited publically?" As a Christian, I would of course not be offended by that but I must say I am very surprised. With the perpetual cries of separation of church and state, this almost seems anachronistic to me.

That being said, replacing it with some kind of all-inclusive politically-correct "prayer" that in its eagerness to not offend anyone winds up saying nothing at all, is worse than just dropping it altogether.

In my early years of elementary school, the Lord's Prayer was replaced with a moment of silence. This gave everyone the opportunity to say a silent prayer that was meaningful to them. That is a much better option than a generic script.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Well said, Steph. I think you mirror my thoughts on this.

Leonard Baak said...

Re: "Nicol DuMoulin said...
Also, This will be his first step towards eliminating the Catholic school system.


Yeah! We can only hope. A dose of religious neutrality in government would be a welcome change over the one faith (or one sect of one faith) favouritism we currently see.