Wednesday, December 12, 2007

Gary McHale banned from Caledonia

The Dunnville Chronicle reports that Gary McHale has been "prohibited from entering Caledonia, Hagersville and York under conditions set by the Ontario Provincial Police...", among other restrictions.

Is this a normal way to deal with such things? I never heard of a Canadian citizen being barred from a particular town before.

More details at Caledonia Wakeup Call.


liberal supporter said...

Is this a normal way to deal with such things?

Normal, as in standard procedure, yes.

I never heard of a Canadian citizen being barred from a particular town before.

I know personally someone this has happened to. Except they were banned from a city. Similar to McHale's case, this person did not reside in the city they were banned from.

It was pursuant to a domestic dispute, they were arrested, and agreed to conditions to get out on bail.

It is amazing how much power Crowns have, they can set pretty much any conditions they want, or deny bail, at least until a bail hearing. No judge is involved before the bail hearing. Even then, you are basically treated as convicted until your case comes up.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Well, then. Not so unusual I suppose. Thanks, L.S.

Anonymous said...

What a pathetic rollover. Show some spine, Joanne.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Be my guest, but keep it civil.

Anonymous said...

The irony here though is that he has been banned because HE was the one who was beaten over there... I seriously doubt there's a case of that occuring before.

Kingston said...

Seriously LS, Banned from an entire city, Interesting, could you give a little more info, sounds like interesting case law to have a look at, might come in handy if my daughter asks for more money while at Univ.LOL, As me one more time I will have you banned from the city. Seriously, I think banning him from the city/town is a little severe, what happen to the standard 200 meter rule from the protest line per say.

Anonymous said...

Is this now McHale's job. He is a professional demonstrator.. for who? Who pays the bills so McHale can stand around all day long and be a professional shyte shifter?
(real conservative)

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Now what restrictions were placed on the people that assaulted McHale? What town were they banned from?

Joanne (True Blue) said...

He is a professional demonstrator.. for who?

Some people in Caledonia are grateful for his help.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

BTW, another thing that McHale is doing for both sides is keeping the pressure on. Otherwise both native and non-native concerns would fade away from the attention of all levels of government.

OMMAG said...

Then banning the usual groups of pot bangers from public events should make perfect sense to all the liberals who support McHales persecution by the OPP!

My choice would be to arrest and ban the full time activist thugs at DCE who are not even from this country.
Ban their asses right back to the USA.
For a start......

Without getting too righteous about McHale's problems though I know that the police can run people out of their jurisdiction under threat arrest for not cooperating.

It's the freekin double standard that just makes my blood boil.

Kingston said...

Ommag, But can they run him out for making a political point/demonstration. What would the reaction be if for example the Ottawa City Police banned a protester from the city over GW because they did not like the way he was protesting. If the man has committed a crime, fine arrest him and a judge and a jury of his peers can deal with it. If he is granted bail a Judge can issue a restraining order although I highly doubt a judge would issue a ban from a town/city seeing how there is a possible charter challenge there. From how I read these news articles the ban was put in place by the police, as I see it, he was the one who was assaulted and suffered physical injury, I agree maybe the people who physically assaulted him should be the people who are banned.

g said...

Gary McHale is charged with counseling to commit a crime, and was observed doing so on video. He was held in jail until he agreed to bail conditions, that most often involve staying away from people and places. 200 metres would cover quite a bit of Caledonia anyway, and Unity Rd is likely included as a possible target of his, so that's the whole town. Nothing unusual in that really.

I agree McHale has kept the "pressure on" and it may have helped spur the governments to keep negotiating.

I think there are other, more constructive ways people can accomplish this, though. McHale draws white supremacists from and to Caledonia ... or perhaps white supremacists of Caledonia draw McHale and ws 'friends'? I don't know, but I know that the people of Ontario and Canada won't rally behind someone like McHale.

Better community leaders, ideas and team work between Caledonia and Six Nations is needed. IF the goal is to focus helpful attention on the issues.

These are provincewide issues and need the attention of the public in way that can influence governments.

I think the people of Ontario and Canada are interested in a) learning more and b) having input, a way to collectively voice their concern to governments, to speed the resolution of land disputes and claims.

Maybe David Crombie and Michael Bryant will help. I know McHale won't help focus attention on the real issues and won't resolve anything as that is not his purpose.

I am curious what it costs a town to hire him? Is he hired by the "Citizens of Caledonia" as he told the media or by (an) individual(s)? Is it written off as a business expense?

And what would it cost for him to go away?

Joanne (True Blue) said...

G - I take it you're not a big fan.

I heard something on the news tonight about the Caledonia residents winning a lawsuit against the OPP...

Did you hear anything about it? I can't find a thing on the net.

g said...

I think they won the right to proceed with the lawsuit. It will be interesting to see the outcome, the OPP and government defend their positions.

I hope the trauma that happened to Caledonia that resulted from the OPP raid will be the focus. It would be good to have blame for that allocated appropriately.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Thanks for that update, G.

It will be a treat to watch the OPP and the Government squirm. This could be the best entertainment in years.