Tuesday, October 09, 2007

O.K. Dalton, you won me over!

Yes indeed. I see the light!

Dalton warned that "Tory's plan will destroy our social fabric, cause division and the "sequestration and segregation" of children by religion".

But kids living here go to a public school and there's clearly no segregation at all, right?

The Ahmadiyya say they don't mean to isolate themselves, and they send their children to public school. Still, the nation's "cultural mosaic" is fairly monochrome in this spot: Teston Road Public School, which opened last month next to the mosque, is about 80% Muslim, and the school provides its gym on Fridays at lunchtime so the kids can kick off their running shoes, bow low toward Mecca and pray.

There now. No worries, little Lemmings.

As you were.

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Sidenote: Judging from the polls and Dalton himself, no need to watch the results tomorrow night on CTV, etc. (Come to think of it, why even bother with the election?)

This will not be a knuckle-biter.



25 comments:

KC said...

Key part: 80%.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

KC - So if a public school has 80% of its student population from the same religion, they're allowed to have prayers in the public school?

What about the other 20%?

KC said...

My point is that 80% isn't "segregation". At least they have the exposure to the other 20%.

And it says that "the school provides its gym [for prayer at lunch hour]" which--while I certainly don't approve of it--is different than the school leading prayer. I seem to remember a girl in my high school organizing a christian youth group that used school facilities at lunch (and I went to high school in the Charter era). I'd rather have religion completely out of schools but I dont think that whats is happening at this school is unheard of.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Somehow I gotta think that a group of Christians taking over a whole gym at noon for a prayer meeting wouldn't go over well in a public school.

JMHO.

OMMAG said...

Face it ... you're going to see a LOT more of this.

Anonymous said...

Not to mention KC the last time I checked McGuinty's religious choice of Catholic schools also spends time in prayer.

Yet same "education" premier says ones ok and funding the other isn't....yet taxpayers ARE funding faith-based schools.

The biggest snowjob in Ontario election history is about to come to fruition.

Get used to it??? So what. Why is it ok for us to fund faiths already with public dollars and not invite others in???

Matt said...

Somehow I gotta think that a group of Christians taking over a whole gym at noon for a prayer meeting wouldn't go over well in a public school.

Have teachers or principals not lost their jobs for something as simple as wearing a crucifix or performing the sign of the cross?

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Why is it ok for us to fund faiths already with public dollars and not invite others in???

You have to been on 'friendly' terms with the McGuinty regime.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Have teachers or principals not lost their jobs for something as simple as wearing a crucifix or performing the sign of the cross?

Funny, but they're having that exact debate in Quebec.

Möbius said...

Dalton thinks it's already won. The PC vote tends to actually show up, so encourage your family members to vote as well.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

I would love to see Dalton get a smack-down because of his arrogance and his Cheshire Cat grin.

A minority would be sublime.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about other regions but the voter's lists are a frigging mess!!! Who's been minding the store???

Joanne (True Blue) said...

I don't know about other regions but the voter's lists are a frigging mess!!! Who's been minding the store???

Anon, are you referring to the lists that the candidates use to canvass or to the lists for voting ahead?

Bruce from Cambridge said...

if we the people of Ontario are ignorant enough to re-elect a lying buffoon like Dalton then we deserve everything we get.

Möbius said...

With the campaign I've seen, I find it hard to blame it on the people.

It was a completely screwed up campaign from the beginning. The PC party has failed to capitalize on the broken promises and slush funds of the Ont Lib party. This means, if they win, that they will think they can do it again.

This is what annoys me the most.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

The PC party has failed to capitalize on the broken promises and slush funds of the Ont Lib party.

I'm not sure if any one person or party is to blame here. What happened is that Kinsella scored again. The guy is a wizard.

Möbius said...

I don't think Kinsella had anything to work with before Tory threw him the FB bone.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Möbius, Kinsella would have dug up something. Tory just made it a whole lot easier for him.

And here are the repercussions:

Read this - Ontario's Dark Side.

Möbius said...

Read it, don't really agree with it, personally.

I don't believe in FB funding, because it's wrong in a modern society to support religious teaching with public tax money. I dont' see that as a prejudice, only a reflection of what we should be doing as a society, attempting to provide all with a decent education, and leave the religious teachings to families if they wish.

That goes for the RC's as well. :)

Joanne (True Blue) said...

That goes for the RC's as well. :)

Well, exactly. All or nothing. And it goes for Eden school too and all the others I mentioned in a previous post.

Nicol DuMoulin said...

Joanne,

Don't give WK too much credit.
Remember, he also worked on Tory's failed Toronto mayoral campaign did he not?

Truth is, getting a Liberal elected in Ontario is a cake-walk of a job. An untrained seal could do it. It is not rocket science.

If the Zodiac killer turned up and ran as a Liberal in most Ontario ridings he would have a better shot of winning than a Conservative.

This was not a brilliant campaign. The Liberals ace in the hole is what it always is...voter ignorance and a media that is in the bag for them.

Getting a conservative elected in urban areas would take the work of a genius.

Don't let this get you down!

Best!

Anonymous said...

Lies, damn lies, and Liberals.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Don't let this get you down!

Thanks, Nicol. I'm not giving up just yet either. There will be a few interesting ridings - Tory's and Wynne's for one.

And of course the MMP vote should be worth watching too. I'm hopeful that it will be defeated.

Anyway, we did our best. Thanks for your support.

Crabgräss said...

Maybe John Tory should stop insisting on funding for faith-based schools.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Maybe John Tory should stop insisting on funding for faith-based schools.

Yeah, because it's already happening for Catholics, certain Mennonite schools, and certain Protestant schools.