Thursday, January 18, 2007

What Fiscal Imbalance?

If Dalton McGuinty wants his so-called "fiscal imbalance" addressed, it looks like he'd better start supporting Stephen Harper.

In Guelph yesterday, Stephane Dion suggested that he is a F.I. skeptic (H/T National Newswatch):

"Don't ask me to pretend there is a fiscal imbalance and elect me and (hope) I will fix it. I don't want to create these kinds of expectations."


Well, if I were Dalton McGuinty (*shudder*), I would therefore support Harper who has made a promise to address the situation, rather than Citoyen Dion who says "Meh" with a French accent.


And on the topic of a leader from Quebec again:

He said he's proud to be a Quebecer and ignored those who discouraged him from running for the Liberal leadership because he's a francophone.

"Many people told me don't run because after Mr. Chretien, Mr. Martin, Mr. Trudeau, enough Quebecers, now we want to go elsewhere. And I told them, 'I don't believe my country will react this way, I don't believe my party will react this way,"' Dion said.

"I (thought) they will say he have a complex country, a great country, but a complex country, and we need to choose the best talents and we should not dismiss somebody because of his or her province."


What about candidate nominations, Mr. Dion? Will you actually be looking for the 'best talent', or will you be dismissing men because of their gender?


Update: Well, obviously M. Dion does not deem it very important to have women in the chairmanship positions. (H/T Halls of Macadamia.) So I guess I was wrong. It's all about the best talent.

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See also True North - Dion doesn't know if there's a fiscal imbalance?

Update: What plan?

15 comments:

Cherniak_WTF said...

How ironic that you talk about "best candidates" but are trying to dismiss Mr. Dion because he is from Quebec - I'm just glad that he's not a lawyer - then your bias would be even more overt.

Now how many has Harper left behind because they are not from key ridings or provinces?
Nice try at a smear but really pathetic this time...

Joanne (True Blue) said...

How ironic that you talk about "best candidates" but are trying to dismiss Mr. Dion because he is from Quebec

Read the post again. Where did I say that?

Anonymous said...

"How ironic that you talk about "best candidates" but are trying to dismiss Mr. Dion because he is from Quebec "

Ya,that's just not right.Of course,it's ok to dismiss someone as a candidate or criticize them because they are Christian right?That's the Liberal way.

Anonymous said...

To cherniak_wtf:

I'm looking forward to your answer to Joanne's question in her response to your post. I also don't see where she said what you accuse her of saying. If you think she implied it, please point out where and how.

Cherniak_WTF said...

Amazing how your bias is so ingrained is what you write that you don’t even see it anymore.
Feigning ignorance of what you meant with a “What, I wrote that?” is insulting.
Johanne, you started with a rant on Fiscal Imbalance and quickly diverted with a drive by smear of Mr Dion and his Quebec origins.. A common theme of the blithering idiots.
The use of superfluous terms such as “Citoyen Dion who says "Meh" with a French accent.”, and the “leader from Quebec again”….

It’s easier to respect people who say and write what they are thinking instead of this innuendo.

PaulsStuff, I’m a libertarian, and believe that we are free to do almost anything we please as long as it does not hurt anyone else. I have respect for the Christian right as long as they don’t start imposing their dogma on others.
So before you start spouting nonsense have a look at Conservadroids who so easily slip into conformity…

As for the post, I would of worded it closer to this:
If Dalton McGuinty wants his so-called "fiscal imbalance" addressed, it looks like he'd better start supporting Stephen Harper.

In Guelph yesterday, Stephane Dion suggested that he is a F.I. skeptic (H/T National Newswatch):

"Don't ask me to pretend there is a fiscal imbalance and elect me and (hope) I will fix it. I don't want to create these kinds of expectations."

Well, if I were Dalton McGuinty (*shudder*), I would therefore support Harper who has made a promise to address the situation.


Now obviously, Joanne only has her blinders on and omitted this part of the article:
Dion said if elected, he would make an effort to address the concerns of premiers like Ontario's Dalton McGuinty, who is complaining the Conservative government has not honoured the terms of a $6.8-billion deal he signed with former prime minister Paul Martin.
But Dion drew the line at making bold assertions about fixing the fiscal imbalance - a promise he said Prime Minister Stephen Harper has made but failed to keep.

"He created huge expectations and did not come up with a definition of (the fiscal imbalance)," Dion said during a swing through the southwestern Ontario.
"(Is it) Mr. McGuinty's, (Quebec Premier Jean) Charest's, (Saskatchewan Premier Lorne) Calvert's definition? He did not put an amount of money (into his plan) and now he has to manage this huge expectation he created. I will not create a huge expectation, I will be a good partner with the provinces."


I understand that some have a very short attention span, but it does help to read more than the big headlines.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

CWTF - That's why I provide the link - You can read the whole article on your own. Do you want me to spoon feed that to you too?

It's my blog, and I can choose to highlight what I darn well feel like.

Why don't you rewrite the post on your own blog and give us all a lesson in libertarianism? You sound more like a wannabe dictator.

Cherniak_WTF said...

CWTF: You are being rather selective in your quotes and placing them out of context.
It’s misleading and gives a false impression given the context….
JTB: It's my blog, and I can choose to highlight what I darn well feel like.

CWTF:People should have more freedoms and we should not let TheoCons tell others how they should live just because they don’t like it. This does not mean that I don’t respect religion, I just take a live and let live stance…
JTB: You sound more like a wannabe dictator.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

CWTF lost me on the 'religion' reference. I don't see religion mentioned in this post. But of course, CWTF knows all so I must be mistaken.

Anonymous said...

"Dion said if elected, he would make an effort to address the concerns of premiers like Ontario's Dalton McGuinty, who is complaining the Conservative government has not honoured the terms of a $6.8-billion deal he signed with former prime minister Paul Martin"

That agreement also had a clause where either side could withdraw from the agreement with 1 years notice,which Harper did.

McGuinty and Martin signed the agreement with that clause so if Mcguinty wants to claim it's not honored he should look in the mirror or call Paul Martin in Cina and complain.

But hey,i'll give Martin credit.At least he signed this agreement,something he forgot to do with the Kelowna Accord.

As for this little gem:

"The use of superfluous terms such as “Citoyen Dion who says "Meh" with a French accent.”, and the “leader from Quebec again”…."

Neo-con,bush-lite,redneck,anti-woman,anti-muslim,alerta bootlicker.

All superfluos terms thrown out every day by Dion and Liberals.

Cherniak_WTF said...

Joanne, given that my attention span is longer than a gnat you’ll have to excuse me for remembering common themes and tired arguments you trod out here everyday.

Religion was mentioned by Paul (“it's ok to dismiss someone as a candidate or criticize them because they are Christian right?That's the Liberal way.) – focus Joanne… focus…

Yes Paul, there is a one year escape clause – but that’s not what was being discussed here.

Paul, Dion may say many things that you don’t comprehend but I’d like you to find a link where HE says “Neo-con,bush-lite,redneck,anti-woman,anti-muslim,alerta bootlicker.”….

How long shall I wait?

Cherniak_WTF said...

Still waiting paulsstuff.......

Anonymous said...

Lets see.Dion called Harper a neo-con during his acceptance speech and the next day on an interview on CTV.

Stronach has been running the Conservatives are anti-woman rant for some time now,such as when she announced her "pink book".

The anti-muslim comments were thrown around during the Lebanese conflict when Harper supported the Israeli position.

Bush-lite.Hmmm.Liberal's through this around quite a bit.In fact used it last election campaign.

Redneck.Do a search on most Liberal blogs.One of Liberals favorite words to use.

As for your claims:

The use of superfluous terms such as “Citoyen Dion who says "Meh" with a French accent.”, and the “leader from Quebec again”…."

Where has Harper or the Conservatives used these words?

Cherniak_WTF said...

All superfluos terms thrown out every day by Dion and Liberals.
Since you are so good with links and have prided yourself on them
Find a quote where Dion has called Harper and fiends
Neo-con,bush-lite,redneck,anti-woman,anti-muslim,alerta bootlicker.

Even you state that's it used on a daily basis, so it should be easy enough for you to find....


For the record, I call many on the right "assmonkeys" - I'm quite sure it's not endorsed by the Liberal party. Of course you'll try to say that I represent the Liberals - no I'm just a blogger....

Anonymous said...

And people wonder why nine tenths of canadians don't pay attention to politics. Settle down people.

It seems pretty hard to blame Martin for putting in a clause whereby either party could check out, and then state that BECAUSE Harper 'checked out' then its Martin's fault. Isn't this the 'personal responsibility' party:)

So here seems to be the difference, choose A or B:

A) Stephane Dion says not to elect him on the basis of 'fixing a fiscal imbalance' or

B) Stephen Harper (what's with all the stephs anyway, how generic is this country?) says there IS a fiscal imbalance, SAYS he will do something about it, then takes the first opportunity out. Stephane Dion or Stephane Harper, I like that.


Hmmm, what a choice! The guy who says theres a problem but won't address it, or the one who says not to vote for him on it.

To be fair, follow that link, the problem is: what exactly do you mean by fiscal imbalance? It seems kind of dumb to say you are going to fix a problem that you haven't even defined. Not dumb... political. When you've got three different provinces with three different ideas, then it seems you either pick one, or state that up front.

Go read Dion's comments, if anything this blog should be praising him to the skies, he sounds like a veritable gun toting conservative, this is an approximate quote "we'll deal with each province and it all depends on how much money is in the coffers". You don't get much more pragmatic than that. All Harper has to do is say the same thing, instead, he sounds like a liberal: Yes, absolutely, we'll do something about fiscal imbalance...not right now, got some cheating on my election expenses to do.

Welcome to upside down world. As a New Brunswicker in Ontario I have to say that both Harper and McGuinty are being complete hypocrites. Harper, once the 'get rid of corporate welfare' guy, and McGuinty, 'prop up our R&D and auto sectors and open up immigration so we can get cheap labour and the educated workforces from the other provinces but stop giving our damn profits away'.

No wonder almost 40% of canadians don't even bother voting.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

No wonder almost 40% of canadians don't even bother voting.

Yes, I'm becoming quite disillusioned myself.