Tuesday, July 03, 2007

Success or Failure?

I suppose whether or not you consider results of the Great Canadian Wish List to be a success or failure would depend on how much support your particular cause received.

There were complaints about how the experiment was handled, but one thing is certain - The Abortion Debate is not a 'dead issue' in Canada. What will it take for politicians to realize this?

I was very grateful to Ruth for posting a couple of videos, because there seemed to be a noticeable lack of coverage in MSM.

Or did I miss something?

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Stephen Taylor - An experiment with unintended results.

Wednesday Update - Some final words on the subject from Ruth, with a link to a fairly recent poll on abortion.


Brian in Calgary said...

Nor is the debate over same-sex marriage a dead issue in Canada.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Well, I'm not so sure about that one, Brian.

Anonymous said...

Don't fool yourself Brian, that debate is long over.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

On the other hand...

Jeff Davidson said...

i'm always perplexed by how social conservatives handle issues like these.

on the one hand, they claim human life is sacred and begins at conception.

on the other hand, they are the first to impose conditions on creation once the child is born.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Well, Brian. I was obviously dead wrong on this one. The same-sex debate is still alive.

Teej said...

What? 8 consecutive court rulings and federal law are not enough for you?

I'm not comofortable with same sex marriage either but lets get realistic. It is hear to stay.

There are bigger issues to be dealt with before we fight some battle we're going to end up losing anyways. Same ways with abortion.

- two tier justice for natives

- terrorism

- actually getting tough on criminals

- the elimination of the debt which we're going to pass along to our children

Pick a real issue and run with it.

Nicol DuMoulin said...

Exactly everyone. Only fight for the issues you are told to fight for and then only take the sides you are supposed to take.

The fights are over when liberals say they are over.

It really is that simple.

Jokes aside though...if all of these debates are over, why does the left feel so threatened in discussing them?

Joanne (True Blue) said...

The fights are over when liberals say they are over.

Yes, rather ironic, isn't it? And yet Jeff complains about how Social Conservatives want to impose conditions...

Anonymous said...

The fight will never be over so long as millions of children are murdered every year in North America.

Human life... isn't it worth fighting for?

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Human life... isn't it worth fighting for?

I'm with ya!

SouthernOntarioan said...

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I'd consider myself socially conservative on the issues of SSM and abortion... but... I think the debate is more or less over.

While abortion will remain legal for the foreseeable future, the route that should be taken is the minimization of abortions in general. "Safe, legal and rare."

For SSM, you are no longer simply asking to deny gay couples permission to be considered 'married' but now you are seeking to undo marriages that are already considered legal. A daunting PR task.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

A daunting PR task.

Yeah, I would have to agree with you there.

Regarding abortions, I would like to see some kind of late-term restriction. I don't think that it is unreasonable.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

"Safe, legal and rare."

Funny how it's rarely safe for the baby.

Anonymous said...

Killing humans before their birth date is just that.

Physicians and females know exactly what they're doing so they should at least call it for what it is, that's all.

Humans born pre-maturely often live to become adults even if the mother is ill and on crack, so it is completely disingenuous to obfuscate the argument by 'pro-choice' labels etc.

It's simply an acceptable form of killing people.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

It's simply an acceptable form of killing people.

Legal, perhaps. Not acceptable. At least not to me.

How many times have you ever heard an excited expectant mother saying, "Oh my fetus is moving! Come feel the mass of tissue causing ripples against my abdominal wall!"

Joanne (True Blue) said...

BTW, interesting situation developing in California.

There is a push for students who perceive their gender to be other than that which is obvious, to be allowed into change rooms, etc. of the anatomically-opposite sex.