tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post9128870452999870780..comments2023-10-19T06:24:41.808-04:00Comments on Joanne's Journey: I give up - Bumped again with not-so-anomalous updateJoanne (True Blue)http://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comBlogger117125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-28254733455121206732007-09-30T21:30:00.000-04:002007-09-30T21:30:00.000-04:00Globe.<A HREF="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070930.wfaithbasedebate0930/BNStory/ontarioelection2007/home" REL="nofollow">Globe</A>.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-40274383813089919512007-09-30T20:33:00.000-04:002007-09-30T20:33:00.000-04:00Four more years. Yep, bugs the hell out of me. The...Four more years. Yep, bugs the hell out of me. The PC's need to read the manual, and figure out that conservatism means smaller government, lower taxes, and necessary services.<BR/><BR/>No slush funds, no FB funding.Möbiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11851148006420274055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-35738639078788478872007-09-30T20:32:00.000-04:002007-09-30T20:32:00.000-04:00City TV clip here (with video).City TV clip <A HREF="http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_15298.aspx" REL="nofollow">here</A> (with video).Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-83112041255477343702007-09-30T20:18:00.000-04:002007-09-30T20:18:00.000-04:00Möbius - You sure made up for the outage! Sorry ab...Möbius - You sure made up for the outage! Sorry about your modem. That's happened to us too.<BR/><BR/><I>I blame FB funding for that!!!!</I><BR/><BR/>Whew! I thought you were going to say 'Climate change'!<BR/><BR/><I>The TS is alluding to a "secret" deal between Toronto mayor Miller, and the Ont Libs, where they would get more money to solve Toronto funding problems if elected.</I><BR/><BR/>I read that at the Star site too. It sure sounded like a deal. Miller goes to hear McGuinty speak, and after he's done, Miller jumps up and applauds wildly.<BR/><BR/>What a crew. They both disgust me.<BR/><BR/>I think we're mad at John Tory because he is responsible for us looking at four more years of McGuinty. Excuse me while I barf.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-32014432268275542522007-09-30T19:59:00.000-04:002007-09-30T19:59:00.000-04:00"Joanne says,But on the other hand, consider this ..."Joanne says,<BR/>But on the other hand, consider this - If McGuinty gets in again, and he likely will, then be prepared for him to continue begging in Ottawa at your expense, while he plans the next holiday that Ontario 'can afford' because it's doing 'so well', while people continue to lose their jobs as companies move out of Ontario."<BR/><BR/>The TS is alluding to a "secret" deal between Toronto mayor Miller, and the Ont Libs, where they would get more money to solve Toronto funding problems if elected.Möbiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11851148006420274055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-25287332797288343532007-09-30T19:57:00.000-04:002007-09-30T19:57:00.000-04:00"for faith-based schools? I feel physically ill to..."for faith-based schools? I feel physically ill to know that Ontarians are so stupid to not understand that point."<BR/><BR/>How many Ontarians are really involved in this election, knowing the parties and names of the candidates?<BR/><BR/>Typically, only a small minority. Politics is boring to most people, even though it's likely one of the most important decisions they make into how their money is spent.<BR/><BR/>How else can you explain a PM Lib minority after the details of sponsorship were revealed?Möbiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11851148006420274055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-30183736223798129962007-09-30T19:50:00.000-04:002007-09-30T19:50:00.000-04:00LS says,"It's different now. The CPC is not your f...LS says,<BR/><BR/>"It's different now. The CPC is not your father's PC party. It is dangerous to Canada. Feel free to call me a scare monger."<BR/><BR/>You're a scare monger! What's dangerous to Canada is people blindly voting for a corrupt party.<BR/><BR/>The minute Dion takes over, we are truly f**ked. Not that I have to worry about that.Möbiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11851148006420274055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1826049669062816502007-09-30T19:45:00.000-04:002007-09-30T19:45:00.000-04:00Joanne (True Blue) said... Möbius, check out the u...Joanne (True Blue) said... <BR/>Möbius, check out the update on this post. Read Sandy's post too. I'd be interested in hearing your reaction.<BR/><BR/>Hey there,<BR/><BR/>Sorry for the long delay in replying, as my DSL modem bit the dust in one or our recent thunderstorms.<BR/><BR/>I blame FB funding for that!!!!<BR/><BR/>I think the funding issue is indefensible, even with the usual Liberal hyposcrisy. I've said many times that you do not bring such a dividing issue up, when you are likely to win an election, which Tory was, 6 months ago.<BR/><BR/>He's still defending it, in a TS article I read today. He's "right", and all of us conservatives are wrong.Möbiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11851148006420274055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-54530525460437600762007-09-30T19:43:00.000-04:002007-09-30T19:43:00.000-04:00as far as I'm concerned this election IS the refer...as far as I'm concerned this election IS the referendum on school choice.<BR/><BR/>If Tory loses McGuinty will be quick to steal his ideas and call them his own..wait for it.....as usual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-17360655146571505112007-09-30T19:37:00.000-04:002007-09-30T19:37:00.000-04:00Here's a little perspective from small town rural ...Here's a little perspective from small town rural Ontario on fb funding and this election.<BR/><BR/>Last week there was an all candidate's debate in our riding.<BR/><BR/>We have 5 candidates running.<BR/><BR/>Attendance at the debate saw the candidates outnumber the attendees.<BR/><BR/>Sad, but true. This election isn't peaking the interest or concern of anyone out here. Also FB funding isn't as scarey out here in the land of Dutch Reform, Mennonites and Amish schools. <BR/><BR/>We too have an angry Liberal currently who likes to wag a finger at the TV monitor as if scolding a child. <BR/><BR/>PCs are doing ok here, and the Catholics quite frankly are embarassed by McGuinty's stand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-66960464396155327972007-09-30T19:34:00.000-04:002007-09-30T19:34:00.000-04:00This is the only story I've found so far.<A HREF="http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/070930/national/elxn_ont_main" REL="nofollow">This</A> is the only story I've found so far.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-30001637163190017032007-09-30T19:27:00.000-04:002007-09-30T19:27:00.000-04:00I saw emotion on both sides and a total screw-up w...<I>I saw emotion on both sides and a total screw-up with the time keeper. </I>.<BR/><BR/>I saw that too on Global. Who was hosting the debate?Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-17483528509318203052007-09-30T19:19:00.000-04:002007-09-30T19:19:00.000-04:00Wynne was the angry Liberal we've heard about on t...Wynne was the angry Liberal we've heard about on this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-3039664787262479242007-09-30T19:18:00.000-04:002007-09-30T19:18:00.000-04:00I didn't see it the same way Alex did. I saw emoti...I didn't see it the same way Alex did. I saw emotion on both sides and a total screw-up with the time keeper. I think Tory did good actually. <BR/><BR/> I predict this riding will return Tory. Kathleen Wynne rubs folks the wrong way. Plenty of alternative and religious schools in the riding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-22404689304439268932007-09-30T18:12:00.000-04:002007-09-30T18:12:00.000-04:00Alex, I just saw a Global TV report. They say it w...Alex, I just saw a Global TV report. They say it was a very emotional and heated debate. I wish I could have seen it.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-69693299507581879632007-09-30T17:46:00.000-04:002007-09-30T17:46:00.000-04:00Ok..hold on there for a minute. You're saying that...Ok..hold on there for a minute. <BR/><BR/>You're saying that Tory beat Wynne today? Buddy, you must have been watching the wrong debate. <BR/><BR/>Tory got some shots in but when youre going up against the education minister with a albatross around your neck, you cant do very well. <BR/><BR/>I never would have thought it, but I think that Wynne may actually win this riding. Initially, I was think that TOry would never have event considered running here without some serious polling done. But, the support just isnt there for him I dont think. He has very few signs up while most neighbourhoods are painted red with Wynne signs. Most people here agree: We're not Dufferin-Caledon, we don't roll out the welcome mat to provincial leaders just because your a leader. <BR/><BR/>Earn our votes or dont bother showing up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-3195140200465217622007-09-30T16:43:00.000-04:002007-09-30T16:43:00.000-04:00I hear Tory smacked her down good in their debate!...<I>I hear Tory smacked her down good in their debate!!</I><BR/><BR/>Really? If you see any links, please let me know. Thanks.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-54336454154483900562007-09-30T16:18:00.000-04:002007-09-30T16:18:00.000-04:00Wynne must think that her Premier is unpopular oth...Wynne must think that her Premier is unpopular otherwise why would she leave his name off of her campaign literature??? <BR/><BR/>I hear Tory smacked her down good in their debate!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-68214254491227009262007-09-30T16:06:00.000-04:002007-09-30T16:06:00.000-04:00Rather hillarious how CTV spins the debate between...Rather hillarious how CTV spins the debate between Wynne and Tory describing Wynne as the "popular" education minister. Um..nope. Not in my community. She may be popular with the unions and union parent groups but she'll always be a loudmouth school board trustee who led the charge against the gov't of the day and refused to balance the books. <BR/><BR/>We also need to remind folks that she's increased the number of well-paid bureaucrats at the MOE substancially, AND is now buying parent participation with money best suited to classrooms. <BR/><BR/>I recall before her days as a trustee her being boo'd out of a meeting being hosted in the same riding when Turnbull had it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-25487636257112182012007-09-30T15:48:00.000-04:002007-09-30T15:48:00.000-04:00McGuinty's all about bowing to union pressure afte...McGuinty's all about bowing to union pressure after all. <BR/><BR/>McGuinty = Paul Martin - arrogant<BR/>McGuinty = Paul Martin - entitled<BR/>McGuinty = Paul Martin - unaccountable with YOUR money<BR/><BR/>McGuinty will give Ontario the kind of government Paul Martin gave our country....and we know hows that ended don't we?<BR/><BR/>Get a grip you whiney conservatives. You've got to be the same jerks who give up on the Leafs when they never make it to the Stanley Cup. Go Calgary!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-49291255905526673242007-09-30T15:39:00.000-04:002007-09-30T15:39:00.000-04:00The Liberals have been flip-flopping on this issue...The Liberals have been flip-flopping on this issue for years. Check this out from a <A HREF="http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2001-05-24/news_feature_p.html" REL="nofollow">May 2001 issue of NOW</A>:<BR/><BR/><I>Shoot-from-the-lip McGuinty, it turns out, was a little too quick to condemn the Tory proposal. Several members of his caucus -- at least half a dozen, one MPP says -- are not averse to extending tax credits to religious schools, which is also part of the Tory plan.<BR/><BR/>It turns out McGuinty isn't opposed to the idea either, if we're to believe the tune he's singing now, but that's not the impression he gave when he wrote former Foreign Affairs minister Lloyd Axworthy on the subject last year. That was shortly after the United Nations criticized Ontario for funding Catholic schools but not those of other faiths.<BR/><BR/>The Liberal leader now says money for religion-based educational institutions should be made available, just not right away. First, he says, we need to fix a public school system that's in total disarray.<BR/><BR/>As usual, the Liberals want to have it both ways.<BR/><BR/>What a mess. Still, Gerard Kennedy, the Grits' education critic, doesn't see a contradiction in the Liberal position.<BR/><BR/>He contends that funding for religious schools doesn't necessarily mean less money for the public system. Both can be accommodated, he says. How?<BR/><BR/>"We don't have the answer to that at this time," says Kennedy.</I><BR/><BR/>Read the whole thing; especially at the end about union pressure.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-5673165572603304712007-09-30T15:21:00.000-04:002007-09-30T15:21:00.000-04:00Hey EDT - the only angry guy in this election is D...Hey EDT - the only angry guy in this election is Dalton McGuinty.<BR/><BR/>Angry, arrogant, entitled, unaccountable. <BR/><BR/>Both Tory and Hampton have be more professional and statemanlike.<BR/><BR/>Dalton reminds me of the kid in the class that ratted the others out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-91516835763125091992007-09-30T15:17:00.000-04:002007-09-30T15:17:00.000-04:00Dalton's kids attended a school in Ottawa that lob...Dalton's kids attended a school in Ottawa that lobbied John Snobelen hard to become a charter school. Parents, teachers and principals at Samuel Genais wanted nothing better than to have special consideration and break away from the public system. <BR/><BR/>Are there no archives that follow Dan Gardiner's stories about that time? I recall a charter school conference held in Toronto in 1997 that saw a huge contingent from Genais in attendance. <BR/><BR/>How hard is it for the MSM to find out about the Liberal visit to Edmonton, or their interest in the charter school movement?<BR/><BR/>I find Dalton's opposition and the myths being spread about fb based schools the same as those launched by the teacher unions and their pet parent groups on the issue of tax-credits. The myths of school choice are nicely dispelled at the Society for Quality Education's website.<BR/><BR/>Do you think it's a coincidence that Dalton's on-side with the teacher union-hyped myths of school choice?<BR/><BR/>A more pointed question to Dalton is why he dislikes parents so much as to not give parents the power to vote with their feet and exit the public system, WHICH, in my opinion, given the recent EQAO results shouldn't stand as the poster-child for an education system where kids are doing better in reading, writing and math.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-58933414146197837132007-09-30T14:52:00.000-04:002007-09-30T14:52:00.000-04:00What fools you are - you've spent weeks name calli...What fools you are - you've spent weeks name calling, bashing, trashing, insulting for what?<BR/><BR/>I watched Oprah the other day regarding the health care crisis in the US. Horrible stories of people losing everything they own, etc.<BR/><BR/>After seeing it, I realize our health tax is a small price to pay for health security and not losing all your assets. Small, small price to pay indeed.<BR/><BR/>western boy.....mind your own business - would you want us telling you what to do in your province? I doubt it. You're using it as a chance to bash and trash.<BR/><BR/>The problem with conservatives - they are unhappy, negative angry people and it's a turn off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-58433994642451056582007-09-30T13:38:00.000-04:002007-09-30T13:38:00.000-04:00Are Tory and Wynne having their All candidates sho...<I>Are Tory and Wynne having their All candidates showdown in Don Valley west sometime today...he best not choke on this issue</I>.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, this could be a <A HREF="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070929/tory_wynee_070930/20070930?hub=Canada" REL="nofollow">very important</A> debate.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.com