tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post7457041359201761427..comments2023-10-19T06:24:41.808-04:00Comments on Joanne's Journey: The polygamy quagmire in TorontoJoanne (True Blue)http://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-78215130437951608032008-02-12T17:58:00.000-05:002008-02-12T17:58:00.000-05:00If the Ont has so much money they can pay those wi...If the Ont has so much money they can pay those with several wives, how about a law that says,<BR/>Any family of any service man/woman in combat duty, is eligible for welfare payments, in addition to their husbands/wives service pay, so that spouse left behind can stay home and take care of family responsibilities. <BR/>In AB welfare pymts are paid to one person at an address. If person receiving help is living at home, for whatever reason (usually illness, disability etc) they get less than if they are living elsewhere.maryThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10099534478709227356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-52889615783712417812008-02-10T18:57:00.000-05:002008-02-10T18:57:00.000-05:00Sufficed to say that neither income arrangement is...<I>Sufficed to say that neither income arrangement is preferable. I can't imagine anyone surviving on less than $40,000 a year, let alone $18-30,000.</I><BR/><BR/>One of my relatives does it. Claims it pays better than getting up early in the morning to go to work.Möbiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11851148006420274055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-29494939887973114192008-02-10T00:24:00.000-05:002008-02-10T00:24:00.000-05:00Nomdeblog, thanks for that info. I saw at Jack's N...Nomdeblog, thanks for that info. I saw at Jack's Newswatch that you were planning to follow Jack's suggestion of leaving comments at the actual blogger's site rather than his Daily Blogger feature, but please feel free to comment wherever you wish. <BR/><BR/>You are always welcome here of course, but it doesn't bother me at all if people choose to comment there. It's all good. :)Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-35377324260518625652008-02-09T23:09:00.000-05:002008-02-09T23:09:00.000-05:00Here is David Warren’s post on the subject in Brit...Here is David Warren’s post on the subject in Britain:<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/ppbqp<BR/><BR/><BR/>And here is literally a “money” quote:<BR/><BR/>“In various other ways, Shariah is being recognized, semi-formally. For instance, although bigamy remains nominally a crime in Britain, the Labour government has approved new social provisions by which extra welfare payments, council housing privileges, and tax benefits may be claimed by polygamous households, and the cash benefits to which the extra wives are now entitled may be paid directly into the account of their husband.”nomdebloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10463322518382058504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-50598324648627482852008-02-09T21:59:00.000-05:002008-02-09T21:59:00.000-05:00Joanne -- An interesting discussion going on about...Joanne -- An interesting discussion going on about you at JN re where to leave comments when Jack displays his Daily Blogger. Take a look. Your ears must be ringing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-16093824717352479192008-02-09T20:57:00.000-05:002008-02-09T20:57:00.000-05:00Here is David Warren’s post on the subject in Brit...Here is David Warren’s post on the subject in Britain:<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/ppbqp<BR/><BR/>And here is literally a “money” quote:<BR/><BR/>“In various other ways, Shariah is being recognized, semi-formally. For instance, although bigamy remains nominally a crime in Britain, the Labour government has approved new social provisions by which extra welfare payments, council housing privileges, and tax benefits may be claimed by polygamous households, and the cash benefits to which the extra wives are now entitled may be paid directly into the account of their husband.”nomdebloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10463322518382058504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-30814895017430702252008-02-09T20:52:00.000-05:002008-02-09T20:52:00.000-05:00Hey nobody has to work anymore all they have to do...Hey nobody has to work anymore all they have to do is move in a bunch of women claim they are Muslim and no one will have to work again and they all get welfare cheques. And Ontario pays for it all. Hey all you who don't like working, come to Ontario and take advantage of Liberal Ontario footing the welfare bill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-42510142674157295582008-02-09T20:46:00.000-05:002008-02-09T20:46:00.000-05:00I don't know about muslims, but in the LDS church,...I don't know about muslims, but in the LDS church, the first wife usually had a say in the 2nd, and they choose the 3rd. I find it hard to imagine women agreeing on who should be next. Hey, I offered to choose a second wife for my husband but he didn't like the person I picked. Another slight problem is we are Catholics, but I told him if he was serious we could convert. <BR/>I should say my mothers family was LDS. <BR/>Men, just think, 5 mothers-in-laws.maryThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10099534478709227356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-30805019672232588172008-02-09T18:34:00.000-05:002008-02-09T18:34:00.000-05:00Perhaps it's the welfare system payouts that make ...<I>Perhaps it's the welfare system payouts that make a mockery of minimum wage laws.</I><BR/><BR/>Sufficed to say that neither income arrangement is preferable. I can't imagine anyone surviving on less than $40,000 a year, let alone $18-30,000.Raphael Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14635417096024081504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-89208150499224262992008-02-09T17:37:00.000-05:002008-02-09T17:37:00.000-05:00That's actually $11 an hour full-time work for a p...<I>That's actually $11 an hour full-time work for a parent over a 40-hour work week, so it makes a mockery of minimum wage laws.</I><BR/><BR/>Perhaps it's the welfare system payouts that make a mockery of minimum wage laws.Möbiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11851148006420274055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-8218555983333391072008-02-09T16:57:00.000-05:002008-02-09T16:57:00.000-05:00Great discussion going on here at Jack's, BTW!Great discussion going on <A HREF="http://jacksnewswatch.com/2008/02/09/daily-blogger-saturday-february-9th-2008/#comments" REL="nofollow">here </A> at Jack's, BTW!Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-3389580979155591272008-02-09T16:20:00.000-05:002008-02-09T16:20:00.000-05:00When did Ontario start this?This has been going on...<I>When did Ontario start this?</I><BR/><BR/>This has been going on for years. It's just been flying under the radar.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-40039473697553762142008-02-09T16:09:00.000-05:002008-02-09T16:09:00.000-05:00where do I line up for my 5 wives?Either this is g...where do I line up for my 5 wives?<BR/><BR/>Either this is good for all..or none?<BR/><BR/>When did Ontario start this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-56306071320337468222008-02-09T15:56:00.000-05:002008-02-09T15:56:00.000-05:00Since we obviously already give tacit approval to ...<I>Since we obviously already give tacit approval to polygamous living arrangements in Canada in terms of financial support and by turning a blind eye, why not give it legal recognition and stop the pretense?<BR/><BR/>Or is the real problem that the 'slippery slope' argument might then indeed be valid, and no one wants to admit it?</I><BR/><BR/>No, the problem seems to not understanding there are exceptions to every rule. Such exceptions can be grandfathered <I>to an extent</I>. <BR/><BR/>Paying more welfare than a couple and several other single women (the other wives) would collect is obviously beyond that extent. There are plenty of men who have children by more than one woman, and are married to (hopefully) the latest one. The "polygamy" situation should be handled the same way.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Perhaps you could ask the Roman Catholic church about this problem of exceptions. There are married priests, why not let all the priests be married by your logic? The married priests of course, are men who were already married when they were accepted into the Roman Catholic priesthood. I think they were typically Anglican priests already and moved over to Roman Catholicism. But they are allowed, and the Church is not going to start allowing the priests in general to be married, at least not because of these allowed exceptions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-9634428864033733102008-02-09T15:21:00.000-05:002008-02-09T15:21:00.000-05:00To the 'Anonymous' who left a comment at 1:10 pm -...To the 'Anonymous' who left a comment at 1:10 pm - I hear what you're saying, but your comment is right on the edge of where I would feel comfortable publishing it. Perhaps you could say it in a way that isn't quite so inflammatory, although I certain can understand your frustration. Thanks.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-60921864026378994682008-02-09T14:34:00.000-05:002008-02-09T14:34:00.000-05:00The Tories could have won Ontario had it not been ...The Tories could have won Ontario had it not been for the faith-based schools issue. John Tory might have got my vote had he thought more carefully about education.<BR/><BR/>"Polly wanna wife?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-79345186940004428212008-02-09T13:24:00.000-05:002008-02-09T13:24:00.000-05:00Five people times $1500 a month is $7500 a month a...<I>Five people times $1500 a month is $7500 a month after taxes.</I><BR/><BR/>Where did you arrive at those figures? I don't know of any welfare payments which exceed $560. See <A HREF="http://www.mcss.gov.on.ca/NR/MCFCS/ODSP/ISDIR/en/1_1.pdf" REL="nofollow">for more information</A>, but it's kind of murky. It's definitely not $1500 a month, although from some sources I found that welfare payments for a four-person family can earn $1770 a month, which is actually pretty good if you find a cheap place. That's actually $11 an hour full-time work for a parent over a 40-hour work week, so it makes a mockery of minimum wage laws.<BR/><BR/>Why would anyone accept a job for less than $11 per hour with a four-person family if welfare payments will exceed that? Still, I suppose workfare could up that incentive.Raphael Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14635417096024081504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-11730092566532796682008-02-09T11:40:00.000-05:002008-02-09T11:40:00.000-05:00Poleez vote me off the island called Ontario!How a...<I>Poleez vote me off the island called Ontario!</I><BR/><BR/>How about voting some politicians off the island instead?Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-8384814745817959732008-02-09T11:19:00.000-05:002008-02-09T11:19:00.000-05:00Strange, I actually read this at Jacksnewswatch an...Strange, I actually read this at Jacksnewswatch and the comments are all proceeding over there.<BR/><BR/>I think the obvious thing here is not to accept polygamous marriage as legal in Canada, but that won't change people applying for welfare.Raphael Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14635417096024081504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-58324357399018096302008-02-09T10:46:00.000-05:002008-02-09T10:46:00.000-05:00Oh, the Polyannish delights of reading about the p...Oh, the Polyannish delights of reading about the polytical situation involving polygamy amongst Toronto's Poly-n'asian community and the quadruple dipping of welfare cheques. Poleez vote me off the island called Ontario! The tribe has spoken.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-44237120286344390782008-02-09T10:21:00.000-05:002008-02-09T10:21:00.000-05:00Five people times $1500 a month is $7500 a month a...Five people times $1500 a month is $7500 a month after taxes.That is like making a $100,000 a year salary for doing nothing.No wonder we are the laughing stock to the world.How much of that money goes to support the jihad.Is anyone checking?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-7165239767264628892008-02-09T09:18:00.000-05:002008-02-09T09:18:00.000-05:00The people in Bountiful are watching this developm...The people in Bountiful are watching this development very closely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com