tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post6318741351430587431..comments2023-10-19T06:24:41.808-04:00Comments on Joanne's Journey: Right (or Left) on the moneyJoanne (True Blue)http://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-4608412299965968282007-03-26T13:19:00.000-04:002007-03-26T13:19:00.000-04:00Thanks for that Raz. I figured as much, but I didn...Thanks for that Raz. I figured as much, but I didn't have the reference at my fingertips.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-17497057476417599822007-03-26T13:14:00.000-04:002007-03-26T13:14:00.000-04:00Robedger states:"Those measures were not meant for...Robedger states:<BR/>"Those measures were not meant for investigating crimes that have already happened. They were intended to prevent future crimes."<BR/><BR/>Wrong.<BR/><BR/>"The measures in question -- preventive arrest and investigative hearings -- were introduced by the Liberal government of Jean Chretien in December 2001 shortly after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, but have never been used. The first allows police to arrest suspects without a warrant and detain them for up to 72 hours without charges; the second empowers judges to compel witnesses to testify at special hearings." (Vancouver Sun, March 3, 2007)<BR/><BR/>razAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-3335808642560555382007-03-26T12:39:00.000-04:002007-03-26T12:39:00.000-04:00Bah, ha, ha!Bah, ha, ha!Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-20464233292938690772007-03-26T12:13:00.000-04:002007-03-26T12:13:00.000-04:00lol! Florence, this is Red Tory being nice. You o...lol! Florence, this is Red Tory being <I>nice</I>. You obviously have never seen his darker side. ;)Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-45896736402152204392007-03-26T11:42:00.000-04:002007-03-26T11:42:00.000-04:00Why Florence would you be shouting me down? I don'...Why Florence would you be shouting me down? I don't believe I said anything rude or nasty. I'm just providing Joanne with some information she might want to dig into if she feels this is really a big deal. Maybe before everyone goes bonkers, it would be prudent to do a little digging to get the facts straight.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-90474171865294950512007-03-26T11:12:00.000-04:002007-03-26T11:12:00.000-04:00why are you Red TORY?you should be Blue LIBERAL!!!...why are you Red TORY?<BR/>you should be Blue LIBERAL!!!<BR/>you are so nasty to Joanne GO AWAY<BR/><BR/><BR/>FlorenceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-31649701478347466412007-03-26T11:04:00.000-04:002007-03-26T11:04:00.000-04:00Oh, and by the way, Anne Park Shannon got the nomi...Oh, and by the way, Anne Park Shannon got the nomination by acclamation. She wasn't "installed" as Mulligan claims although that was certainly an option for the Libs. One they didn't need to exercise however.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-62762940224876974872007-03-26T10:58:00.000-04:002007-03-26T10:58:00.000-04:00You can read about it here. Much ado about nothing...You can <A HREF="http://www.publiceyeonline.com/archives/002235.html" REL="nofollow">read about it here</A>. Much ado about nothing. Here's a suggestion... why not put on your intrepid citizen journalist's hat on and send Mulligan an e-mail (mulligan@mtplaw.com) to see if you can get the skinny on this so-called scandal. Or phone him: 1 800 664 2785.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-74227905318415396092007-03-26T08:29:00.000-04:002007-03-26T08:29:00.000-04:00his allegations are without substance.Meaning?<I>his allegations are without substance.</I><BR/><BR/>Meaning?Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-38573009936256468122007-03-26T08:15:00.000-04:002007-03-26T08:15:00.000-04:00It's a total non-event here and I suspect it will ...It's a total non-event here and I suspect it will be everywhere else. Sour grapes from this Mulligan fellow. Also, his allegations are without substance.<BR/><BR/>Sorry but there's no "there, there" with this so-called scandal.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-47994656508381839182007-03-26T06:33:00.000-04:002007-03-26T06:33:00.000-04:00And anyway, Red, it's still relevant.And anyway, Red, it's still relevant.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-32174546099884891992007-03-26T06:18:00.000-04:002007-03-26T06:18:00.000-04:00old news here in Victoria, don't you?Juicy scandal...<I>old news here in Victoria, don't you?</I><BR/><BR/>Juicy scandals have no best-before date.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-31402615132488613372007-03-26T06:17:00.000-04:002007-03-26T06:17:00.000-04:00I was just pointing out that it is absurd to prete...<I>I was just pointing out that it is absurd to pretend that the junking of the defibrilators has done "so much damage to our country in such a short time".</I><BR/><BR/>It's a pattern. Dion is making Bill Graham's record look positively brilliant by comparison.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-15633923363526009652007-03-26T02:09:00.000-04:002007-03-26T02:09:00.000-04:00You do realize that your "HUGE!!! Scandal!" is old...You do realize that your "HUGE!!! Scandal!" is old news here in Victoria, don't you?Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-15938865514003122332007-03-26T01:04:00.000-04:002007-03-26T01:04:00.000-04:00one of the measures was needed for the Air India i...<I>one of the measures was needed for the Air India inquiry to continue the investigations</I><BR/><BR/>Those measures were not meant for investigating crimes that have already happened. They were intended to prevent future crimes.<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>we haven't used these defibrilators yet, so lets junk 'em</I><BR/><BR/>That actually wasn't what I was saying. I was just pointing out that it is absurd to pretend that the junking of the defibrilators has done "so much damage to our country in such a short time".<BR/><BR/>Keep in mind that the defibrilators had consequences, and were not more useful than many things which are already in place, particularly if we are talking about terrorism perpetrated from abroad.<BR/><BR/>Obviously, reasonable people can disagree on the need for the provisions. Over-the-top rhetoric does not contribute to that debate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-54319376782011279582007-03-25T22:11:00.000-04:002007-03-25T22:11:00.000-04:00Thank goodness Gerard Kennedy is having a lawsuit ...<I>Thank goodness Gerard Kennedy is having a lawsuit that will allow us to find out.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes indeed. Let's get it all out - Kim Bolan's mole, Jonathan Kay's John Doe, and all that intrigue going on in La-la Land on the West coast.<BR/><BR/>Lots of pieces to a very complex and obsure puzzle.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-65256312339571012772007-03-25T22:06:00.000-04:002007-03-25T22:06:00.000-04:00I have no idea. Thank goodness Gerard Kennedy is ...I have no idea. Thank goodness Gerard Kennedy is having a lawsuit that will allow us to find out. Plus there's that court case out in BC that should help. And maybe TDH can be goaded into telling us more...Tarkwell Roboticohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14094004943956654732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-84231982590721933292007-03-25T21:59:00.000-04:002007-03-25T21:59:00.000-04:00we haven't used these defibrilators yet, so lets j...<I>we haven't used these defibrilators yet, so lets junk 'em!</I><BR/><BR/>That's right. It's an insurance policy (the 72 hours holding provision). You really hope you won't need it, but good to have it in your back pocket.<BR/><BR/>According to Bob Rae, one of the measures was needed for the Air India inquiry to continue the investigations. Why is Dion against that?Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-3404316253597322022007-03-25T21:43:00.000-04:002007-03-25T21:43:00.000-04:00robedger is thinking goes like this:we haven't use...robedger is thinking goes like this:<BR/><BR/>we haven't used these defibrilators yet, so lets junk 'em!<BR/><BR/><BR/>As for Sheila, I guess she could write book called, "Nobody's Bully".Tarkwell Roboticohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14094004943956654732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-9424872002871611382007-03-25T21:21:00.000-04:002007-03-25T21:21:00.000-04:00what I was specifically thinking of here was his s...<I>what I was specifically thinking of here was his stubborn refusal to extend the ATA sunset provisions</I><BR/><BR/>Ok, fair enough. I actually hadn't though of that.<BR/><BR/>I could see why you would think that not renewing provisions that hadn't been used during their entire existence would do damage to our country.<BR/><BR/>On a side note, I think that it is interesting that those on the right insist that Dion is moving left, while those on the left insist that Dion is moving right. I explain the phenomenon <A HREF="http://robedger.blogspot.com/2007/01/plight-of-centrist.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-62229051917652074472007-03-25T18:16:00.000-04:002007-03-25T18:16:00.000-04:00I don't know where you're coming from here. Do you...<I>I don't know where you're coming from here. Do you have any examples?</I><BR/><BR/>Rob, what I was specifically thinking of here was his stubborn refusal to extend the ATA sunset provisions; even against the best advice of the Liberal-dominated Senate and several high-ranking Liberals including Irwin Cotler and Bob Rae. Also, his reluctance to back certain tough justice bills dangerous in my opinion.<BR/><BR/>He is pandering to the left trying to snare some NDP votes at the expense of public safety.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-25390370629880031202007-03-25T18:01:00.000-04:002007-03-25T18:01:00.000-04:00Rob, i think you don't understand "tongue in cheek...Rob, i think you don't understand "tongue in cheek sarcasm".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-7223392155619122082007-03-25T17:50:00.000-04:002007-03-25T17:50:00.000-04:00I guess Sheila missed that Post column telling Dio...I guess Sheila missed that Post column telling Dion to quit whining?Candacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05903011672174393312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-36047406164250224102007-03-25T17:41:00.000-04:002007-03-25T17:41:00.000-04:00Vicki, Brian, Joanne - sorry folks, but none of th...Vicki, Brian, Joanne - sorry folks, but none of that is useful if we are looking for tangible damage.<BR/><BR/>I think you may be getting lost in your own rhetoric. It's fine to be partisan, but not at the expense of being realistic.robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06557812182283316971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-38019329882042676862007-03-25T16:35:00.000-04:002007-03-25T16:35:00.000-04:00...a la Copps:"No one actually believes the Grits ......a la Copps:<BR/><BR/>"No one actually believes the Grits love the Taliban more than our own soldiers and by claiming it, Harper hurt only himself."....gee, no one, Sheila??? Are you sure? You didn't ask me, or many others who have written that Harper only said what they were thinking.<BR/><BR/>"His rebukes, however, had the opposite effect."...wrong again Tequila Sheila. Her writing (I rarely read her columns anymore) has the opposite effect on me than what she intends. I find her to be one of those who must have landed here on a UFO....hmmm...that might explain the liberal mindset.:-)<BR/><BR/>'People want to believe their prime minister is a nice guy.'....in 2007 (post 9/11), I, for one, want a leader, strong and knowledgeable.<BR/><BR/>'Somehow, Harper has managed to confuse excessive testosterone with leadership. '....and is the opposite true? that Dion has managed to confuse excessive estrogen with being an opposition leader??? (I know, my bad.) :-)<BR/><BR/>'Needs to share'....huh??? <BR/><BR/>I think that Tequila Sheila needs to put the glass down. :-)<BR/><BR/>razAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com