tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post115737153679049870..comments2023-10-19T06:24:41.808-04:00Comments on Joanne's Journey: Time to Support S.O.C. - With UpdateJoanne (True Blue)http://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comBlogger108125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157665294384055842006-09-07T17:41:00.000-04:002006-09-07T17:41:00.000-04:00I know dammit I have scars alreadyI know dammit I have scars alreadySarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157663866006189272006-09-07T17:17:00.000-04:002006-09-07T17:17:00.000-04:00Sara - Don't feed the bears.Sara - Don't feed the bears.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157662299326636122006-09-07T16:51:00.001-04:002006-09-07T16:51:00.001-04:00Jo, go check out the threat on my site!Jo, go check out the threat on my site!Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157662280050239392006-09-07T16:51:00.000-04:002006-09-07T16:51:00.000-04:00truly advance a women's career, what if that woman...truly advance a women's career, what if that woman was at home with her kids, you decide she is not worthy of funding and the SWC too?<BR/><BR/>I see nothing wrong with a woman wanting to advance her career. And if the SWC wants to fund that to help the status of women within the workplace then so much the better.<BR/><BR/>And I see nothing wrong with a woman wanting to stay at home with her children but unfortunately the SWC does... that is my fight.<BR/><BR/>OK I am sorry for saying are you dense but to make it clear I didn't say you were, my statement is you are not reading my material. You're conclusions about me are way off base. Read my site sometimes and you might figure it out.Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157660606382163012006-09-07T16:23:00.000-04:002006-09-07T16:23:00.000-04:00Nicole: You've made some very interesting points....Nicole: You've made some very interesting points.<BR/><BR/>Daycare Selection: I agree that families should have a choice of where they send their children. I believe there are licensing/insurance considerations, but I'm not sure.<BR/><BR/>Continued Education: To truly advance women's causes I feel that this would be an essential and should definitely be funded.counter-coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01942904236425440011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157659325021346062006-09-07T16:02:00.000-04:002006-09-07T16:02:00.000-04:00also, yes there are community colleges, but when t...also, yes there are community colleges, but when there is one income in the family, it makes it hard for women to take night classes to give herself something when the kids are school age.<BR/>I take a night class a semester and it usually costs me $ 400-500 a class. I could not afford it if I didn't work my ass off with my part-time direct sales job.<BR/>maybe something should be done about this...SWC should help SAHM's with funding for education upgrades.... would help women achieve equality in the workplace when the woman is ready to eneter it again.....just a thoughtNicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362389545306124505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157659134108873492006-09-07T15:58:00.000-04:002006-09-07T15:58:00.000-04:00what needs to be pointed out, is Sara is not neces...what needs to be pointed out, is Sara is not necessarily asking for a monthly check. There should be some benefits for all stay aome parents...like income tax splitting and maybe bigger tax credits per child at home. Nobody here is wanting to get rich over raising their kids.<BR/><BR/>What also needs to be addressed is that there are parents out there that want to choose their own care, like I pointed out earlier in this thread and nobody touched the comment, but daycare trends differ across the country. It is a plain and simple fact. Not all parents that are receiving subsidies get to indeed chosse where their family attends daycare. Parents should ALWAYS have the final say in it.<BR/>I personally know a woman that is a single mother, the father is a deadbeat dad and she does qualify for the subsidy here in SK, but doesn't even apply, because her choices were limited as to where she could send the kids. She wants them to attend the dayhome in her area where her kid's friends also attend, not an out of area home, which takes the kids out of their own community, but would make her daycare more affordable. Is this fair to this woman? I know that as a family they really go without alot of "extras" that the extra couple of hundred dollars she would save pesonally would help.<BR/><BR/>This is a more complex issue then most understand. It is not black and white and a I'm right and you are wrong scenario.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362389545306124505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157657500900006252006-09-07T15:31:00.000-04:002006-09-07T15:31:00.000-04:00Sara said... How do you decide that a working fami...<I>Sara said... <BR/>How do you decide that a working family making $80,000 a year that get tax money back and subsidized daycare should have that paid for by a single income family on $30,000 a year. That is soooo fair don't you think!!</I><BR/><BR/>So what would you advocate? Is it your position that any parent (male or female) should have the choice of working or to receive government money to be a stay-at-home parent? Let's say that you have a single parent (which tend to mainly be women), they should have a similar option? As far as income is concerned, you want to place income caps or have some sort of sliding scale based on ability to pay? Something like that doesn't seem an unreasonable thing, if the parent can afford it.<BR/><BR/><I>are you dense or just want to keep fighting, I've said over and over again I want to "fund the child" that way a woman has a right to stay at home or go to work whichever she chooses, not the state. Now do try and keep up!</I><BR/><BR/>Gee...I'm sure glad that Joanne was doing that moderation to keep out all the nasty, name-callers. "Fund the children", what an absolutely meaningless phrase. Those that do not want their policies scrutinized always seem to throw the word children in there to hide behind. Ciritcize not the policy lest you want to hurt "the children". So I guess all the money that's currently going towards daycare isn't "funding the children". I'm still curious as to your answers of my questions above.<BR/><BR/><I>Do you not feel a mom going to work outside the home and boosting her career is a luxury.I know if I did it I would have felt so.</I><BR/><BR/>I see nothing wrong with a woman wanting to advance her career. And if the SWC wants to fund that to help the status of women within the workplace then so much the better.<BR/><BR/><I>And no you did not specify that your accusations were of me being home because we can afford it, well then the truth be told if you pay daycare at full price you can obviously afford it. You have so far haven't you so therefore you don't need help.... that is what I see daily. If you pay you can afford unless you are a mom working outside of the home, even if she pays she still needs help but screw the rest of us. </I><BR/><BR/>Now who's making assumptions. I gave no details of my background or ability to afford daycare or not. I merely stated that it is very expensive.counter-coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01942904236425440011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157653236132587122006-09-07T14:20:00.000-04:002006-09-07T14:20:00.000-04:00This is still just an avoidance of reality. BTW, w...This is still just an avoidance of reality. BTW, who exactly is taking from the poor? You're taxed on your income and those tax dollars are distributed as seen fit by your duly elected representatives. But to sit there and say that you don't want your fraction of a cent not to go to a particular agency is pretty ridiculous. And are you really making the claim that if your fraction of a cent was getting spent somewhere else that you would be any "richer"?<BR/><BR/><BR/>What???<BR/><BR/>How do you decide that a working family making $80,000 a year that get tax money back and subsidized daycare should have that paid for by a single income family on $30,000 a year. That is soooo fair don't you think!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>You're only reinforcing the original alternative that I offered. That you would want a government program that would pay women to be stay-at-home mothers. Which would provide nothing to further womens' equality within the workforce and become basically another form of welfare.<BR/><BR/>are you dense or just want to keep fighting, I've said over and over again I want to "fund the child" that way a woman has a right to stay at home or go to work whichever she chooses, not the state. Now do try and keep up!<BR/><BR/>Do you not feel a mom going to work outside the home and boosting her career is a luxury.I know if I did it I would have felt so.<BR/>And no you did not specify that your accusations were of me being home because we can afford it, well then the truth be told if you pay daycare at full price you can obviously afford it. You have so far haven't you so therefore you don't need help.... that is what I see daily. If you pay you can afford unless you are a mom working outside of the home, even if she pays she still needs help but screw the rest of us.Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157652657010484782006-09-07T14:10:00.000-04:002006-09-07T14:10:00.000-04:00Sara said... not even close this is a fact of taki...<I>Sara said... <BR/>not even close this is a fact of taking from the poor to give to the rich. My taxes go to support plenty of great causes and I give the shirt off my back to a lot but I will not to this unless it is done equal.</I><BR/><BR/>This is still just an avoidance of reality. BTW, who exactly is taking from the poor? You're taxed on your income and those tax dollars are distributed as seen fit by your duly elected representatives. But to sit there and say that you don't want your fraction of a cent not to go to a particular agency is pretty ridiculous. And are you really making the claim that if your fraction of a cent was getting spent somewhere else that you would be any "richer"?<BR/><BR/><I>Women at home who can't afford daycare, that is what daycare advocates say. If they cannot have daycare then they are forced to childcare their own children. Yet the same could be said for mothers at work that want to childcare their own children. If they can't afford to stay at home and the state will not help them they are forced financially to go to work.</I><BR/><BR/>You're only reinforcing the original alternative that I offered. That you would want a government program that would pay women to be stay-at-home mothers. Which would provide nothing to further womens' equality within the workforce and become basically another form of welfare.<BR/><BR/><I>A luxury it is not, that seems to be your problem. It is not all glamour and bon bons. Maybe you should think twice about what a daycare worker does then double that for a parent at home.<BR/>Keep thinking about that last statement. It was not a question. WHen you figure it out then get back to me.</I><BR/><BR/>There's no need to be patronizing and I find it rather ironic that you would be so quick to try to lesson the labour of others while declaring your own labour tantamount. I've never said that homecare wasn't hard work or some sort of holiday. I refered to it as a luxury, which I believe it is. Luxury does have more than one <A HREF="http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=luxury" REL="nofollow">meaning</A> you know: <I>3 b : an indulgence in something that provides pleasure, satisfaction, or ease</I>counter-coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01942904236425440011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157650533303159192006-09-07T13:35:00.000-04:002006-09-07T13:35:00.000-04:00This is an old, false argument from those that don...This is an old, false argument from those that don't agree with a specific government agency/program and want to declare their tax money separate from everyone elses. <BR/><BR/>not even close this is a fact of taking from the poor to give to the rich. My taxes go to support plenty of great causes and I give the shirt off my back to a lot but I will not to this unless it is done equal.<BR/><BR/>Women at home who can't afford daycare, that is what daycare advocates say. If they cannot have daycare then they are forced to childcare their own children. Yet the same could be said for mothers at work that want to childcare their own children. If they can't afford to stay at home and the state will not help them they are forced financially to go to work.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>A luxury it is not, that seems to be your problem. It is not all glamour and bon bons. Maybe you should think twice about what a daycare worker does then double that for a parent at home.<BR/><BR/>Keep thinking about that last statement. It was not a question. WHen you figure it out then get back to me.Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157647280064745122006-09-07T12:41:00.000-04:002006-09-07T12:41:00.000-04:00Sara said... I am at home 24/7 they are not,,,,The...<I>Sara said... <BR/>I am at home 24/7 they are not,,,,<BR/>They raise their children and love their children as I do but they are not home doing full time childcare.</I><BR/><BR/>Right, they're not doing homecare because they have to work, hence the need for daycare. But you really didn't address my point about trying to promote equality for women in the workforce.<BR/><BR/><I>No not even close, my complaint is SWC and other dept's want to take money from our family to give to others who have more than us and want more than us.</I><BR/><BR/>This is an old, false argument from those that don't agree with a specific government agency/program and want to declare their tax money separate from everyone elses. <BR/><BR/><I>Do I assume everyone should be a stay at home mom, of course not and stop trying to put words in my mouth it won't work.<BR/>I don't believe a woman should be forced into the paid workforce or staying at home. That is what equality really means.</I><BR/><BR/>I didn't place words in your mouth (I wouldn't presume). I merely posed a question about what you thought the alternative should be. I don't really understand your second point here. Who's being forced to stay at home? I mentioned before about women that are required to work since they may be the only means of support for their child and the social implications of women in the workforce. <BR/><BR/><I>I don't care if a daycare worker gets a check or not, what I care about is my children what is right for them.</I><BR/><BR/>I'm glad to see that you feel the same way I do on this. :-)<BR/><BR/><I>and yet you begrudge a mother or dad for getting a pay check?</I><BR/><BR/>Where exactly did I state this? I stated that you have a luxury affored you that many other wommen, if they so chose, do not. I was responding to your specific statement:<I>"Yet they allow daycare workers to be paid and unionized"</I> Which seemed as if you had a problem with daycare workers being paid.<BR/><BR/><I>Is it the fact that you do not want woman in the home doing their own childcare or is it you do not think we are worthy of get subsidized to be at home. Are daycare workers more important than us in society? These are not assumptions like you made these are simple questions for you.</I><BR/><BR/>Talk about putting words in one's mouth. I made no such assumptions and where again did I state that I do not want women to perform childcare? In fact, I refered to it as a luxury (which I beleive it is) that you've been afforded, which is hardly a condemnation.<BR/><BR/><I>Above all that do not assume I am a pampered housewife, I work hard my husband works hard and our family works hard. You have no idea what we do to keep me home so DO NOT assume. <BR/>I am no different than a single parent on welfare except from our bank accounts...</I><BR/><BR/>Again, I made no such assumptions. I've never called your or anyone elses dedication in to question. But that last sentence doesn't really make much sense. Isn't that the very definition of the difference between one who's on welfare and one who is not, their bank account?counter-coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01942904236425440011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157643174336250302006-09-07T11:32:00.000-04:002006-09-07T11:32:00.000-04:00So are all the mothers that are out there in the w...So are all the mothers that are out there in the workforce.<BR/><BR/>I am at home 24/7 they are not,,,,<BR/>They raise their children and love their children as I do but they are not home doing full time childcare.<BR/><BR/>You're complaint largely seems to be that the SWC isn't sending you a check.<BR/><BR/>No not even close, my complaint is SWC and other dept's want to take money from our family to give to others who have more than us and want more than us.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Do I assume everyone should be a stay at home mom, of course not and stop trying to put words in my mouth it won't work.<BR/>I don't believe a woman should be forced into the paid workforce or staying at home. That is what equality really means.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I don't care if a daycare worker gets a check or not, what I care about is my children what is right for them.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Not really. I can no more begrudge the daycare workers for receiving a paycheck than I can a teacher.<BR/><BR/>and yet you begrudge a mother or dad for getting a pay check?<BR/><BR/>Is it the fact that you do not want woman in the home doing their own childcare or is it you do not think we are worthy of get subsidized to be at home. Are daycare workers more important than us in society?<BR/><BR/>These are not assumptions like you made these are simple questions for you. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Above all that do not assume I am a pampered housewife, I work hard my husband works hard and our family works hard. You have no idea what we do to keep me home so DO NOT assume.<BR/><BR/>I am no different than a single parent on welfare except from our bank accounts...Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157642581268848692006-09-07T11:23:00.000-04:002006-09-07T11:23:00.000-04:00Sara said... I am at home working with my children...<I>Sara said... <BR/>I am at home working with my children, teaching, feeding, morals and yes even learning from them...</I><BR/><BR/>So are all the mothers that are out there in the workforce.<BR/><BR/><I>...but as a woman I am thrown aside by SWC because I do not promote a professional woman. Yet they allow daycare workers to be paid and unionized.</I><BR/><BR/>You're complaint largely seems to be that the SWC isn't sending you a check. You have the luxury of being able to raise your own children full-time, while there are many women who don't and are required to work in order to feed, clothe and house their children. And in order for women to be able to remain in the workforce means they require someone to watch their children while they're at work. Since the burden of childcare usually falls on the mother, especially in the case of divorce, this creates a disadvantage for women in the workplace. Many times women are discrimintated against because of heavy use of sick time, maternity leave, etc. What would you have be the alternative? Having all mothers stay at home and be on the government dole? That would hardly be a situation where womens' rights would be getting advanced and somehow I don't think that idea would fly in conservative circles.<BR/><BR/><I>I will not pay for your daycare workers with the shirts on my kids back. Do you understand what I mean.</I><BR/><BR/>Not really. I can no more begrudge the daycare workers for receiving a paycheck than I can a teacher. But you do not get to decide individually where your tax dollars are spent and I hardly think your children are going shirtless because of it. The tax revenue alone generated from women being in the workforce makes your point moot.counter-coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01942904236425440011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157639814709333352006-09-07T10:36:00.000-04:002006-09-07T10:36:00.000-04:00yes, it is cheaper on the bills to have me at home...yes, it is cheaper on the bills to have me at home, no not really.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I am home 24/7 we use more electricity, heat and food for our house.<BR/><BR/>I've given up a full salary to be at home, that salary will never be back until I am about 50. In that time you have more to save in pension (if you don't have one at work) medical, dental. What happens if I get sick or hurt, I do not have insurance to cover this and I do not have a dime to spare to buy insurance. No I do not have a second vehicle but I still take the bus my costs are still high. A stay at home parent in the long run suffers more financially even though it does not seem like it now. We have no long term resume, I cannot walk into work tomorrow and become a broker. I will never make $50,000 a year.<BR/>We also as a one income family pay 42% higher taxes than a double income family making the same amount of money. We do pay for being at home, but we do it anyways because we feel it is right for our family.<BR/><BR/>I do not write this for pity or guilt I write this to show why we are discriminated against and yet you ask us to support daycare and not stay at home parents...Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157639568993361342006-09-07T10:32:00.000-04:002006-09-07T10:32:00.000-04:00vBut then I thought; to be fair, shouldn't they pa...vBut then I thought; to be fair, shouldn't they pay fathers who stay at home? and how does paying a stay-at-home parent promote the SWC's stated goals? So...I'm kinda on the fence about this one. :-) <BR/><BR/><BR/>Yes a stay at home parent is either dad or mum either way they should be treated fairly.<BR/><BR/>The fact of SWC is they are standing up for women equality but pushing women aside to do so. I am at home working with my children, teaching, feeding, morals and yes even learning from them but as a woman I am thrown aside by SWC because I do not promote a professional woman. Yet they allow daycare workers to be paid and unionized. Does it really make sense?<BR/>I am sorry your daycare costs are too high and yes I would like to change that but I will not pay for your daycare workers with the shirts on my kids back. Do you understand what I mean. <BR/>That statement was not to be mean just for you to realize that I would not ask for the shirt of your childs back to give to mine.Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157639110446306762006-09-07T10:25:00.000-04:002006-09-07T10:25:00.000-04:00nd why not realize some savings by acknowledging p...<I>nd why not realize some savings by acknowledging parents that choose to stay at home? But then I thought; to be fair, shouldn't they pay fathers who stay at home? and how does paying a stay-at-home parent promote the SWC's stated goals?</I><BR/><BR/>You mean the one about equality?Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157638845024046282006-09-07T10:20:00.000-04:002006-09-07T10:20:00.000-04:00Sara said... Counter," that most all of those that...<I>Sara said... <BR/>Counter,<BR/>" that most all of those that oppose the SWC do so out of some sense of moral outrage rather than any sense of "fairness"."<BR/><BR/>was that aimed at me, cause if it is about childcare I'd say thems fighting words if not just let me know.</I><BR/><BR/>No, that wasn't aimed at you, that's why I prefaced it with the word "most". <BR/><BR/>I have thought about your position on the SWC and childcare. At first I thought; if the SWC is willing to subsidize daycare for women in the workplace why not some sort of stipend for homecare children? I mean, daycare is very expensive (I have an 8 year-old that I continue to pay daycare for) and why not realize some savings by acknowledging parents that choose to stay at home? But then I thought; to be fair, shouldn't they pay fathers who stay at home? and how does paying a stay-at-home parent promote the SWC's stated goals? So...I'm kinda on the fence about this one. :-)counter-coulterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01942904236425440011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157632057389927382006-09-07T08:27:00.000-04:002006-09-07T08:27:00.000-04:00O.K. Sara. I'll grab the Glade!O.K. Sara. I'll grab the Glade!Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157629269513151782006-09-07T07:41:00.000-04:002006-09-07T07:41:00.000-04:00sure but I'm eating 2 cans of beans before we sque...sure but I'm eating 2 cans of beans before we squeeze each otherSarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157592082645851702006-09-06T21:21:00.000-04:002006-09-06T21:21:00.000-04:00Just suck it up and accept it....under that gruff,...<I>Just suck it up and accept it....under that gruff, barbed tongued, opinionated, sarcastic exterior, beats a sweetheart.</I><BR/><BR/>Ahhh... Group hug now!Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157590079725611072006-09-06T20:47:00.000-04:002006-09-06T20:47:00.000-04:00Nicole -- Sssshhhhhh.... Don't let that informatio...Nicole -- Sssshhhhhh.... Don't let that information get out.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157589791225067432006-09-06T20:43:00.000-04:002006-09-06T20:43:00.000-04:00My father died about 8 years ago without a will an...My father died about 8 years ago without a will and all he left her was a pile of bills to sort out. <BR/><BR/>Sorry for rambling. Anyway, it was a combination of having to work (she liked to live quite well) and wanting to work because she liked to keep busy and otherwise she would have been bored out of her mind. She was an amazing lady who charmed everyone she met, young and old alike. Her death was a real shock and I miss her a lot. <BR/><BR/>I'm sorry to hear and they sound amazing!<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>As far as you saying stay at home parents can contribute to society by....<BR/><BR/>we contribute to society by being with our children and many more things already.<BR/><BR/>I contribute to society just being at home with my kids, I do work.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Counter,<BR/><BR/>" that most all of those that oppose the SWC do so out of some sense of moral outrage rather than any sense of "fairness". The idea that this government organization is somehow obligated to provide funding for its own dissolution is ludicrous. I've mentioned here before that there are means available to citizens to have their will reflected in public policy, it just seems that there really aren't as many women (or people) as proclaimed here to have it come to fruition. " <BR/><BR/>was that aimed at me, cause if it is about childcare I'd say thems fighting words if not just let me know.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Nic,<BR/><BR/>I'm not bickering with RT just debating the issue he always adds a little flare like WTF, but hey I could call him a mofo but that would be silly and we're not on your site so we can't act up in here lol. Yah RT sickly enough does care we just have to slap him enough to show he cares!Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157577531561076332006-09-06T17:18:00.000-04:002006-09-06T17:18:00.000-04:00Nic –- Me? Heartless? Perish the thought.RT...you ...Nic –- Me? Heartless? Perish the thought.<BR/><BR/>RT...you wily coyote!!!<BR/>don't put words in my mouth!!<BR/><BR/>I was pointing out, that when you do open up about your mom, is when I see your heart at it's biggest.<BR/>You already know, that I know you have a good heart....now the whole world can read it LOL<BR/><BR/>Just suck it up and accept it....under that gruff, barbed tongued, opinionated, sarcastic exterior, beats a sweetheart.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362389545306124505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1157577168110915372006-09-06T17:12:00.000-04:002006-09-06T17:12:00.000-04:00Nic –- Me? Heartless? Perish the thought. I'm alwa...Nic –- Me? Heartless? Perish the thought. <BR/><BR/>I'm always happy in agreeing to disagree.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.com