tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post115417394426664675..comments2023-10-19T06:24:41.808-04:00Comments on Joanne's Journey: So Much for the "Luck of the Irish".Joanne (True Blue)http://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154657863119529002006-08-03T22:17:00.000-04:002006-08-03T22:17:00.000-04:00I'm not much of an expert but I've seen a bit more...I'm not much of an expert but I've seen a bit more than the average citizen, I guess!Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499980957240834609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154436696457453782006-08-01T08:51:00.000-04:002006-08-01T08:51:00.000-04:00Thanks as always, Mac. Good to have an expert reso...Thanks as always, Mac. Good to have an expert resource such as yourself!Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154408341957541762006-08-01T00:59:00.000-04:002006-08-01T00:59:00.000-04:00I just thought of an exception... the RCMP gives w...I just thought of an exception... the RCMP gives way when/if there is a tribal police force on the reserves but we're are always available for assistance.Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499980957240834609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154400602690874072006-07-31T22:50:00.000-04:002006-07-31T22:50:00.000-04:00Exactly. Until it's added to the reserve, it's eit...Exactly. Until it's added to the reserve, it's either municipal or provincial. <BR/><BR/>Caledonia is policed by the OPP, right? Here's the reason why...<BR/><BR/>Small municipalities often make contracts with the provincial police for police services. Doing so ensures a cost-sharing with the province whereas raising a dedicated municipal force means going it alone with little or no provincial imput.<BR/><BR/>If the municipality is small enough (ie: less than 5000) the policing service is automatically provided by the province. <BR/><BR/>The only exception is federal land. If it's native reserve lands, it's the RCMP. If it's DND property, it's the Military Police.Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499980957240834609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154348622017176832006-07-31T08:23:00.000-04:002006-07-31T08:23:00.000-04:00Mac, all that about the various police forces and ...Mac, all that about the various police forces and their jurisdictions is very interesting.<BR/><BR/><I>The dispute in Caledonia presents an interesting problem since the disputed land, if recognized as reserve, would be federal jurisdiction, meaning RCMP. If part of the municipality, that would mean whatever municipal force has jurisdiction, likely meaning the OPP.</I><BR/><BR/>So are you saying that if the disputed land is eventually seen to be reserve land and given to the natives, that then the RCMP would be in charge?Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154309018695284562006-07-30T21:23:00.000-04:002006-07-30T21:23:00.000-04:00Quebec has the First Nations!Quebec has the First Nations!Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154291045279301732006-07-30T16:24:00.000-04:002006-07-30T16:24:00.000-04:00"""Also, does any other province have its own poli..."""Also, does any other province have its own police force?<BR/><BR/>Manitoba."""<BR/><BR/>...figures!<BR/>OMMAGOMMAGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05475151103850378778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154290275372628232006-07-30T16:11:00.000-04:002006-07-30T16:11:00.000-04:00There is a bit of a "pecking order" in policing bu...There is a bit of a "pecking order" in policing but it's so informal & grossly generalized that it's almost meaningless as it has more to do with jurisdiction than anything else. My experiences with the OPP have been very positive.<BR/><BR/>The current provincial forces are the OPP, the Sureté du Québec and the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary. Most of the provinces had provincial forces over the years but those are the only three left.<BR/><BR/>There were also limited forces like the New Brunswick Highway Patrol and the Cape Breton Regional Police but again, most of those forces are gone. The reason is simple. RCMP contracts are less expensive because they're partly funded by the Feds.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of which, BC's contract with the RCMP as provincial police is coming up for renegotiation. Theoretically, BC could choose to dump the RCMP and start a new force. Imagine the ramifications of that!<BR/><BR/>The dispute in Caledonia presents an interesting problem since the disputed land, if recognized as reserve, would be federal jurisdiction, meaning RCMP. If part of the municipality, that would mean whatever municipal force has jurisdiction, likely meaning the OPP.Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499980957240834609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154288906214112322006-07-30T15:48:00.000-04:002006-07-30T15:48:00.000-04:00Thanks, Tango. So, I guess it's not just an Ontari...Thanks, Tango. So, I guess it's not just an Ontario thing.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154273632119393432006-07-30T11:33:00.000-04:002006-07-30T11:33:00.000-04:00Seems logical, Red. I guess I'm wondering why we h...Seems logical, Red. I guess I'm wondering why we have all these different levels of policing, but I suppose that the highways and rural areas have to be covered, where they are outside of city boundaries.<BR/><BR/>But can't the Caledonia police handle this dispute?Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154272223943384092006-07-30T11:10:00.000-04:002006-07-30T11:10:00.000-04:00MPP, I believe.MPP, I believe.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154267927416808852006-07-30T09:58:00.000-04:002006-07-30T09:58:00.000-04:00Red - Thanks. Any idea what the name is?Red - Thanks. Any idea what the name is?Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154263240803554722006-07-30T08:40:00.000-04:002006-07-30T08:40:00.000-04:00Also, does any other province have its own police ...<I>Also, does any other province have its own police force?</I><BR/><BR/>Manitoba.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154254655549524622006-07-30T06:17:00.000-04:002006-07-30T06:17:00.000-04:00Mac, BTW, I have heard that the OPP as a police fo...Mac, BTW, I have heard that the OPP as a police force is taken less than seriously by others, including the RCMP. What is your take on that?<BR/><BR/>Also, does any other province have its own police force?Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154254523987422642006-07-30T06:15:00.000-04:002006-07-30T06:15:00.000-04:00By the way.... I'm back from Sacramento where it w...<I>By the way.... I'm back from Sacramento where it was 48C.</I><BR/>Whew! I guess we shouldn't be complaining here in Ontario with the temp around 30.<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>Didja miss me?</I><BR/><BR/>Big time, buddy. ;)<BR/>Welcome back!!!Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154233263756400852006-07-30T00:21:00.000-04:002006-07-30T00:21:00.000-04:00I heard there's a nation-wide search underway for ...I heard there's a nation-wide search underway for her replacement. Hopefully, the new Commish has a spine.<BR/><BR/>By the way.... I'm back from Sacramento where it was 48C. Didja miss me?Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499980957240834609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154222028045441142006-07-29T21:13:00.000-04:002006-07-29T21:13:00.000-04:00sry off topic but go check out Nics blog and look ...sry off topic but go check out Nics blog and look at what she has under her heading on top!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahhahahaSarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154197422024069072006-07-29T14:23:00.000-04:002006-07-29T14:23:00.000-04:00Mulder - Rumour has it that the likely replacement...Mulder - Rumour has it that the likely replacement won't be much better.<BR/><BR/>Sara - lol! Sad but true.Joanne (True Blue)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17445664997050698154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154193201272209422006-07-29T13:13:00.000-04:002006-07-29T13:13:00.000-04:00I wish he was listening but he has never listened ...I wish he was listening but he has never listened to anyone but the little man in his headSarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501007165042573615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20283843.post-1154192091950866292006-07-29T12:54:00.000-04:002006-07-29T12:54:00.000-04:00Luck of the Irish is still there. In this case it...Luck of the Irish is still there. In this case it's just bad luck.<BR/><BR/>Unless you're Irish living in Ontario. Then it's all good.trustonlymulderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04775730948619023568noreply@blogger.com